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    How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

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    Metal Maniac
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    How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

    Post by Metal Maniac on Tue 22 Jun 2010, 00:01

    Hey APU,

    How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

    I've seen alot of people stuff there setups full of chemicals killing there whole systems

    How are members curing this PEST???

    Freshwater Ich...




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    Re: How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

    Post by burgh on Tue 22 Jun 2010, 07:22

    A Metal,

    I can't remember the name of the stuff off the top of my head, but its blue. Something like ich off. I found it to work best if you pull all carbon out of your system raise the heat a bit and pull all gravel. Pulling gravel sucks , but to me its easier to clean it out of the tank than in the tank and missing alot of the eggs from the ich that haven't hatched yet. I will look to see if I can find the bottle so I can give you the correct name.


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    Re: How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

    Post by burgh on Tue 22 Jun 2010, 07:26



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    Re: How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

    Post by Cam on Wed 23 Jun 2010, 11:44

    I treat with raised temp of 85 and dose with aquarium salt,..for those that do not
    know, not just any salt but one based "sodium chloride (NaCl)",.. I treat my tank(s)
    for 10 days,..


    Chemical use is also affective (Malachite Green) but must be used per the directions
    and be sure to remove any carbon used in filters first. The reason for such
    lengthy treatment (7 days for chemicals) is meds are only affective at a certain
    point in the parasites lifecycle,..when they are attached to your fish they are protected by the fish's
    slimecoat from meds,..the parasite, after a few days it will drop off to reproduce completing the cycle.
    This is when meds are affective, to stop the reproduction and kill the host. Do not
    raise the temp above 75 on your tank when using chem meds,..both raised temps and
    chemicals reduce oxygen levels in your water and when done together is well,..just
    dont do it.

    With a salt bath do not use both salt and chemical meds together,..raising the temp
    of your water (85) will prevent the parasite from reproducing and the salt will kill
    it,..even if after 4-5 days you dont see anymore signs of Ich continue the salt bath
    for 10 days,..You can do water changes during a salt bath but remember to redose with
    salt per the directions and tank volume afterwards. Surface agitation is very important
    when raising temps as the higher the temp goes, the lower the oxgen level in the water gets.

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    Re: How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

    Post by Metal Maniac on Sun 27 Jun 2010, 06:29

    Cam wrote:I treat with raised temp of 85 and dose with aquarium salt,..for those that do not
    know, not just any salt but one based "sodium chloride (NaCl)",.. I treat my tank(s)
    for 10 days,..


    Chemical use is also affective (Malachite Green) but must be used per the directions
    and be sure to remove any carbon used in filters first. The reason for such
    lengthy treatment (7 days for chemicals) is meds are only affective at a certain
    point in the parasites lifecycle,..when they are attached to your fish they are protected by the fish's
    slimecoat from meds,..the parasite, after a few days it will drop off to reproduce completing the cycle.
    This is when meds are affective, to stop the reproduction and kill the host. Do not
    raise the temp above 75 on your tank when using chem meds,..both raised temps and
    chemicals reduce oxygen levels in your water and when done together is well,..just
    dont do it.

    With a salt bath do not use both salt and chemical meds together,..raising the temp
    of your water (85) will prevent the parasite from reproducing and the salt will kill
    it,..even if after 4-5 days you dont see anymore signs of Ich continue the salt bath
    for 10 days,..You can do water changes during a salt bath but remember to redose with
    salt per the directions and tank volume afterwards. Surface agitation is very important
    when raising temps as the higher the temp goes, the lower the oxgen level in the water gets.


    All good Remedies!!!

    I like the Salt and temp Raise method...the Chemicals to me seems like im shortening the fishes life expectancy...and the salt has sooo many other benefits!


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    Re: How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

    Post by Cam on Sun 27 Jun 2010, 14:18

    I rarely use any chemicals in my tanks and agree with ya on benefits of salt,..
    Helps to heal injuries, promotes slime coat, improves gill function, reduces nitrite
    spikes (poisoning) and adding hardness, works good for stress reduction, and
    works great on parasites as stated above.

    FYI~Salt use is harmful to scaleless fish/plecos and can kill off live plants,..

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    Re: How are Members Curing there freshwater ich???

    Post by Metal Maniac on Sat 03 Jul 2010, 16:53

    Cam wrote:I rarely use any chemicals in my tanks and agree with ya on benefits of salt,..
    Helps to heal injuries, promotes slime coat, improves gill function, reduces nitrite
    spikes (poisoning) and adding hardness, works good for stress reduction, and
    works great on parasites as stated above.

    FYI~Salt use is harmful to scaleless fish/plecos and can kill off live plants,..


    And this info you posted Cam is most important and often forgotten...

    FYI~Salt use is harmful to scaleless fish/plecos and can kill off live plants,..


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